Wayne Madsen on the Murder of Navy SEAL Team 6
by Dr. Eowyn
by Dr. Eowyn
August 16, 2011
On August 6, Taliban “rebels” in Afghanistan shot down a U.S. military Chinook helicopter. All 30 Americans on board were killed.
Among them were 22 members of the Navy SEAL Team Six who, on May 2, 2011, had assassinated purportedly Osama bin Laden in his secret compound in Abbotabad, Pakistan. News of Osama’s death instantly boosted Obama’s flagging poll numbers.
The Navy SEAL is the elite of our military’s elite corps. The SEALs have the respect and admiration of even fighter pilots, who themselves are elite Top Guns.
SEAL Team Six is the informal name of the United States Naval Special Warfare Development Group (NSWDG), commonly known as DEVGRU — one of the United States’ four secretive counter-terrorism and Special Mission Units.
According to Wikipedia, “The vast majority of information about DEVGRU is highly classified, and details of its activities are not commented on by either the White House or the Department of Defense.” The Navy SEAL is scrupulous in keeping confidential both its operations as well as the identities of SEAL members. So it is curious, to say the least, that the Obama White House is actively helping Hollywood with a movie on Team 6′s takedown of Osama, which undoubtedly will be in every multiplex cinema in America just in time for the 2012 presidential election.
The crash of that Chinook helicopter is being met with skepticism, and for good reason. For examples, see http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/08/10/what-really-happened-to-seal-team-six-a-scenario/ and http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/the-execution-of-seal-team-six/.
Now, longtime D.C. investigative reporter Wayne Madsen, himself a former U.S. Navy officer, is weighing in. Here’s an excerpt from his exclusive-to-subscribers Wayne Madsen Report (WMR), “Obama welcomes home SEAL Team bodies after the SEALS became a ‘problem’,” August 10-11, 2011:
WMR has learned from Navy SEAL Team 2 sources that the Chinook was flying under prescribed normal transit altitudes, which made it vulnerable to an attack from a rocket-propelled grenade (RPG). SEAL Team 2 is based in Little Creek and Dam, Neck, Virginia, where many of the dead SEAL Team 6 members were also based. The sources claim that many SEALs believe the SEAL Team 6 members were sacrificed for political reasons because they “knew too much” about the Abbotabad raid. Moreover, SEAL Team 2 members believe their comrades were eliminated by CIA assets operating in the area in an effort to eliminate witnesses to the actual events that occurred in Abbotabad. The bitterness of SEAL team personnel over what happened with the Chinook is intense since an entire unit of their friends was almost completely wiped out. ~Eowyn*******
Sea burial fodder for conspiracy theoriesDeath of Osama bin Laden
By Matea Gold and David S. Cloud and Eryn Brown
03 May 2011
The U.S. faces a quandary in proving the Al Qaeda's leader death without inflaming his supporters, and may release photos of his body. Skeptics include the mother of a Sept. 11 victim.
WASHINGTON — Within hours of the raid on Osama bin Laden's Pakistani compound, the CIA had used 21st century technology to get "a virtually 100% DNA match" on the dead man. But something out of another century may come back to haunt Washington: the Al Qaeda leader's burial at sea.
Conspiracy theorists on both the left and right were quick to insist that Bin Laden was either still alive or had been dead for years, pouncing on the government's decision to slide the body of the world's most wanted man off a board into the Arabian Sea.
As blogs hummed with allegations that the Obama administration had faked the middle-of-the-night raid, the Bin Laden "death hoax" threatened to replace questions about President Obama's citizenship as the latest Internet rumor to go viral.
"I am sorry, but if you believe the newest death of OBL, you're stupid," antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan posted on her Facebook page. "Just think to yourself -- they paraded Saddam's dead sons around to prove they were dead -- why do you suppose they hastily buried this version of OBL at sea?"
Infowars, the website of Libertarian radio host Alex Jones, was crammed with stories charging that the U.S. government had concocted the killing to justify a security crackdown. The Tea Party Nation website brimmed with indignant posts questioning the timing of Obama's announcement.
"Don't you think OBAMA needs something to assure his reelection," one commenter wrote.
Even a relative of one of the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks voiced skepticism, citing the burial at sea.
"Is it true or false? I don't know," said Stella Olender of Chicago, whose daughter Christine died at the World Trade Center. "To me that seems strange, that they disposed of it and no one [besides] whoever was right there knows what happened."
The conspiracy theories spoke to the quandary facing the U.S.: proving the Al Qaeda leader's death without inflaming his supporters and the broader Muslim world. Because of that concern, U.S. officials were considering the merits of releasing gory photos of Bin Laden taken after he was shot.
The burial, which was carried out from aboard the aircraft carrier Carl Vinson in the northern part of the Arabian Sea, was necessary because arrangements couldn't be made with any country to bury Bin Laden within 24 hours, as is the general Muslim practice, administration officials said. But a senior military officer said the U.S. also wanted to avoid having a grave become a shrine that would attract his followers.
Administration officials insisted Monday that there was no question who was killed in the Pakistani raid. Along with being visually identified on the scene by U.S. operatives, Bin Laden was identified by name by a woman believed to be one of his wives, according to a senior intelligence official. On Sunday evening, CIA specialists compared photos of the body with known photos of Bin Laden, determining with 95% certainty that they were one and the same.
On Monday morning, the CIA and other agencies conducted an "initial DNA analysis," comparing a sample taken from the body with DNA samples from several Bin Laden family members. The results, the official said, gave them "a virtually 100% DNA match."
The intelligence community has been collecting DNA samples from Bin Laden relatives for years, according to another U.S. intelligence official. Because the family is so big, obtaining samples was not difficult, officials said, particularly from relatives who denounce Bin Laden's activities.
Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and a former FBI agent, confirmed that the government had more than one source of DNA.
"Through the DNA testing and other things, it is clear beyond a shadow of a doubt that this was Osama bin Laden, based on the science," he said.
Dr. Frederick Bieber, a medical geneticist at Brigham and Women's Hospital, said it is possible for genetic kinship analysis to be done quickly, particularly if profiles of relatives have already been completed.
"Often it can be done overnight, and in high-profile forensic investigations, it often is," said Bieber, who declined to comment on the particulars of this case.
The administration was still weighing whether to release graphic photos of Bin Laden's bullet-pocked body to put the rumors of a hoax to rest. (A photo, purportedly of Bin Laden's corpse, circulating online was determined to be fake.)
"We are going to do everything we can to make sure that nobody has any basis to try to deny that we got Osama bin Laden," said John Brennan, Obama's top counter-terrorism advisor. "And so, therefore, the releasing of information and whether that includes photographs -- this is something to be determined."
Some congressional leaders suggested such a move was necessary.
"Unless there's an acknowledgement by people in Al Qaeda that Bin Laden is dead, it may be necessary to release the pictures -- as gruesome as they will undoubtedly be, because he's been shot in the head -- to quell any doubts that this somehow is a ruse that the American government has carried out," Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) said.
"We want to make sure that we maintain dignity, if there was any, in Osama bin Laden so that we don't inflame our problems in places around the world and still provide enough evidence that people are confident that it was Osama bin Laden," Rogers said.
In fact, doubt was also widespread in the Muslim world.
"He is still alive," said Sayed Mohammed, a chef at a restaurant in Cairo's bustling Zamalek neighborhood. "He is a clever guy -- he is no Hosni Mubarak."
And in Peshawar, a city near Pakistan's militant-heavy tribal areas, many refused to believe that Bin Laden had been killed.
As he made copies at a Peshawar store, Muhammad Sajjad said, "I am sure he will conquer America first, then he will die."
Of course, even if the government does release photographs of Bin Laden's body, that will not necessarily quell the doubters.
"It's certainly a hallmark of conspiracy theorists that whatever evidence is presented, they always find problems with it," said Brooks Jackson, director of the nonpartisan group FactCheck.org.
Times staff writers Neela Banerjee, Brian Bennett, Ken Dilanian, Kim Geiger, Kathleen Hennessey and Lisa Mascaro in Washington, Ryan Haggerty in Chicago and Molly Hennessy-Fiske in Cairo and special correspondent Zulfiqar Ali in Peshawar contributed to this report.
Times staff contributors
Contributing to the coverage of Osama Bin Laden's death from the Washington and New York bureaus were Neela Banerjee, Geraldine Baum, Brian Bennett, David S. Cloud, Ken Dilanian, Bob Drogin, Kim Geiger, Matea Gold, Tom Hamburger, Kathleen Hennessey, Lisa Mascaro, Melanie Mason, Michael A. Memoli, Peter Nicholas, James Oliphant, Christi Parsons, Paul Richter, Richard A. Serrano, Richard Simon, Katherine Skiba and Tina Susman.